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Contrasts – interview with Leif Ove Andsnes about this year´s program

What inspired you to create the program “Contrasts” for this year’s festival?

In 2022 and 2023, we focused on programs centered around two iconic composers: Beethoven in ‘22 and Brahms in ‘23. While delving into their works was fantastic, I wanted to create a more varied and contrasting program this year.

Last year, I was intrigued by Hungarian music. Brahms’ music has many connections to Hungarian folk music, and we also performed several powerful works by György Ligeti, who would have turned 100 last year. Continuing along the Hungarian path became tempting. Additionally, knowing that we would have the Norwegian Soloists’ Choir with us this year, I was eager to explore programs featuring Johann Sebastian Bach.

The title “Contrasts” is taken from Bela Bartok’s piece, which we’ll perform during the opening concert, and it aptly reflects the overall diverse and contrasting nature of the program.

Bartók Béla, 1927. http://w3.rz-berlin.mpg.de/cmp/bartok_9.jpg, Public domain, via Wikimedia Commons

Béla Bartók, 1927

What do you appreciate about Hungarian music?

There are so many strong personalities in the Hungarian music scene. I’ve had the privilege of playing with the Budapest Festival Orchestra and conductor Ivan Fischer a few times. This orchestra stands out globally—before even playing a note, their tuning ritual differs from the norm. While most orchestras tune to a single A played by the solo oboist, in Budapest, they used several reference pitches for different instrument groups. It’s surprising and distinctly Hungarian.
The orchestra’s commitment and unity are exceptional. Witnessing the entire ensemble rise to sing Brahms a cappella as an encore after performing Brahms’ First Symphony was deeply moving. Ivan Fischer believes that orchestra members should be able to sing, and they apparently often start rehearsals with choral singing.
I have also worked with composer György Kurtág. A unique composer and a fabulous musician, fanatical about music. In our environment, there are countless stories about how Kurtág is never satisfied, how he can spend hours with musicians working on just a few bars, completely blind to practicalities and set rehearsal times. The feedback to the musicians is honest and direct, to put it mildly. Ligeti had this same fanatical attitude, and this independence is very evident in the music as well.
What unique voices and composers there are from this country! Franz Liszt, Béla Bartók, György Kurtág, Zoltán Kodály, György Ligeti. Just saying these consonant-rich names aloud gives a sense of uniqueness.
I find it fascinating how Hungarian composers have managed to incorporate elements of their country’s folk music into their works. It’s always there: the dissonant intervals, the movable gestures from dance music, the singable quality that is always based on the language, with the Hungarian emphasis always on the first syllable. Bartók really led the way here, as one of the greats of the 20th century. I believe the path he showed has been enormously fruitful for later composers and may be one of the reasons there are so many strong voices in contemporary Hungarian music.
Marcel Antonisse / Anefo, CC BY-SA 3.0 NL , via Wikimedia Commons, See page for author, Public domain, via Wikimedia Commons and György Kurtág, 2014 Av Lenke Szilágyi/𝒲. Lisens: CC BY SA 3.0

György Ligeti, Zoltán Kodály and Kurtág György.

Where does Franz Liszt fit in here? He is not exactly known for his chamber music.

No. We are doing some chamber music, but the main focus will be on piano music and the work Via Crucis for choir and piano, a piece that is quite unique, composed towards the end of Liszt’s life. It is a bare work, meditations on the 14 stations of Christ’s way to the cross. There are far fewer notes here than what we associate with the earlier opulent Liszt. Towards the end of his life, he wrote music that moves far towards the atonal, and Liszt perhaps goes even further here towards the dissolution of major and minor tonality than his son-in-law Richard Wagner did.
A digression: I met Reinbert de Leeuw (Dutch composer, pianist, and conductor) a couple of times a few years before he died (2020). He was very interested in Liszt’s Via Crucis, and on YouTube, there is an hour-long beautifully enlightening conversation where he talks about the work and shows examples.He manages to demonstrate how wonderfully and intricately the piece is structured and how remarkably radical it was in its time. Highly recommended!
Otherwise, it is primarily in piano music that Liszt was groundbreaking. He writes for the piano in a completely new and orchestral way, overwhelmingly colorful, seductive, and very demanding. The latter, the extreme virtuosity, I almost think of as a Hungarian trait. Within piano music, few pieces are as demanding to play as Liszt’s and Ligeti’s études, or for example, Bartók’s piano concertos. They stretch the limits for the performers, right to the edge of what feels possible, or even further…
Franz Hanfstaengl, Public domain, via Wikimedia Commons

Franz Liszt, 1870

In the middle of the festival, we will hear three programs with works by Bach, and also some Bach transcriptions in other programs. Tell us more.

When it became clear that the Norwegian Soloists’ Choir would be part of the festival, I felt inspired to create some concerts featuring Bach—both instrumental music and choral works. I’m looking forward to hearing the gamba sonatas, harpsichord concertos and cello suites in the beautiful medieval church. Initially, motets and cantatas were on the choir’s program draft, but it became very tempting to perform the St. John Passion, especially since this year marks the 300th anniversary of its first performance. Personally, I have a strong connection to Bach’s two great passions, the St. Matthew and St. John Passions. There are few works in our classical music tradition that mean as much to me. I think I was around twenty years old when I first heard the St. John Passion, in the fantastic recording by John Eliot Gardiner and the Monteverdi Choir from 1985. I remember listening to the opening chorus repeatedly, mouth agape. The pulse in the bass, the undulating strings, the two oboes cutting through like nails through the hands on the cross, the outbursts in the choir—it’s overwhelming. The work is more compact than the St. Matthew Passion, and I love its austerity. The action propels forward with great tension, while arias and chorales provide moments of calm and reflection. The shifts between unrest and tranquility in the work are powerful and moving.

Det Norske Solistkor

The St. John Passion and Via Crucis. Has this partly become an Easter festival?

He he, yes, it might seem that way. I hope it will be interesting to hear these two works two days apart. Both based on the passion story, but they are two wildly different worlds.
Gunnar Danbolt has written brilliant texts about both these works in the booklet “Maleri og Musikk” which can be purchased during the festival. For me, it was particularly interesting to read about the theological opposition both composers faced in their time for these works.

In a program on Thursday, we find the pairing of Kurtág and Robert Schumann. Are there any similarities to be found between these two composers?

Yes, for me, there’s a kinship. Both composers often write shorter pieces, fleeting miniatures. They both create intensely personal music. They use programmatic titles that often relate to specific people or events, inviting us into a private world. We know that Schumann used small themes in his pieces that his wife Clara would immediately understand the significance of. Kurtag’s short pieces also seem to be inspired by those closest to him, like all his “Hommáge a…” pieces, written as greetings or in memory of people in his circle. And Kurtag’s “Hommage a R Sch” (Robert Schumann) is a brilliant tribute from one composer to another, where Kurtag uses themes and musical figures from Schumann’s world.

We will hear Ruth Wilhelmine Meyer at the festival, both as a composer and singer.

Ruth Wilhelmine Meyer is literally a unique voice in our music scene. Her voice has an enormous range, and she uses it in unconventional ways, from the most delicate whispering to raw throat singing. She has a very clear vision for what and where she wants with her compositions, but improvisation is also an important part of her universe. It will be nice to present Ruth Wilhelmine in different ways during the festival. The Soloists’ Choir will perform her “Lokeslottet,” which they premiered last year. She will give solo performances, and she explores folk music in collaboration with Hardanger fiddle player Aleksander Aga Røynstrand. And I will have fun with her in “In the Hall of the Mountain King.” She takes inspiration from Grieg’s music, but even more from Ibsen’s story and roles. I had a preparatory work session with her this spring on this, and I was very impressed by her approach to entering this well-known material. One thing I am sure of: this “Mountain King” will not be boring!

Av Williamtosun – Eget verk, Offentlig eiendom, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=52261806 and György Kurtág, 2014 Av Lenke Szilágyi/𝒲. Lisens: CC BY SA 3.0

Robert Schumann and György Kurtág

It has become a large festival this year, with about 60 singers and musicians.

Yes, this year’s festival is ambitious and a big effort for us. There will be 45 people on stage during the performances of the St. John Passion. We have never been close to that in our hall. I am as excited as a child for the concerts with the Passion, and for much else.

Our festival audience includes chamber music enthusiasts from both home and abroad, as well as those new to classical music but eager to soak in the festival atmosphere. The beauty of music lies in its unpredictability; even meticulously planned programs can yield unexpected experiences. Rest assured, Rosendal will resonate with countless “goosebump” moments this summer!

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